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		<title>Comment on SnackFace: Three Years Young by Zaineb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zaineb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 04:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that is what I call a fair, respectful discussion:)</description>
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		<title>Comment on SnackFace: Three Years Young by snackface</title>
		<link>http://www.snack-face.com/2012/02/07/snackface-three-years-young/#comment-38806</link>
		<dc:creator>snackface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 04:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Katya, what I now see your commentary bringing to light is the social responsibility of bloggers today and the accountability I have to readers. Initially, I underestimated the interest level in this blog post, but as we&#039;ve seen, it&#039;s brought out great passion and varying opinions in readers. This sort of discussion &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; great and I fully admit that I was not prepared to talk about this singular modeling gig on a grander scale. To your point of my true interests: I spend the majority of my time writing and every now and then model. That&#039;s all I ever predict my writing-modeling balance to be (I&#039;m getting &quot;old&quot; in the modeling world anyway-- at 24! Now that&#039;s a blog topic...). 

But back to what&#039;s really getting at everyone (as you suppose): That I&#039;m not commenting on &quot;socioeconomic privilege as it relates to objectification of women.&quot; I&#039;m honestly not ready to talk about that right now. I&#039;m not prepared. I haven&#039;t thought that through or done my research. What I know is that my experience was enjoyable through and through. It was wild and different. At no point did I feel uncomfortable, which is very unlike the modeling job that spurred my 2008 article. And here&#039;s the thing-- reading what I wrote in 2008 only confirmed my instinct that I should wait a while to write about my Maxim experience at length. I said things in my 2008 article that I laugh at now. I didn&#039;t know what I was talking about. I&#039;m fresh out of this Maxim experience. Right now, it seems innocent and fun. In a year from now, I might still feel that way. Five years from now, I could have a totally different point of view. Part of why blogs are so interesting is because they change as the people behind them change. Give me some time and I&#039;m sure there will be something that makes me write about this Maxim instance further. That&#039;s how my writing usually works. Or else I end up forcing meaning upon something, and that&#039;s not authentic whatsoever and it makes me CRINGE.

(Side note-ish: Maybe at the moment I really don&#039;t have anything interesting to say about it because I&#039;m not looking that far into it currently. Where I work now, we hire really hot male models for certain events and I see nothing wrong with that. That&#039;s what we (and our audience) want to see!)

I have been both dismissive and defensive when addressing these sometimes accusatory comments. For that I am sorry. I should have taken a step back before responding.

But DAMN! You even won &lt;em&gt;me&lt;/em&gt; over with your extremely thought-out comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katya, what I now see your commentary bringing to light is the social responsibility of bloggers today and the accountability I have to readers. Initially, I underestimated the interest level in this blog post, but as we&#8217;ve seen, it&#8217;s brought out great passion and varying opinions in readers. This sort of discussion <em>is</em> great and I fully admit that I was not prepared to talk about this singular modeling gig on a grander scale. To your point of my true interests: I spend the majority of my time writing and every now and then model. That&#8217;s all I ever predict my writing-modeling balance to be (I&#8217;m getting &#8220;old&#8221; in the modeling world anyway&#8211; at 24! Now that&#8217;s a blog topic&#8230;). </p>
<p>But back to what&#8217;s really getting at everyone (as you suppose): That I&#8217;m not commenting on &#8220;socioeconomic privilege as it relates to objectification of women.&#8221; I&#8217;m honestly not ready to talk about that right now. I&#8217;m not prepared. I haven&#8217;t thought that through or done my research. What I know is that my experience was enjoyable through and through. It was wild and different. At no point did I feel uncomfortable, which is very unlike the modeling job that spurred my 2008 article. And here&#8217;s the thing&#8211; reading what I wrote in 2008 only confirmed my instinct that I should wait a while to write about my Maxim experience at length. I said things in my 2008 article that I laugh at now. I didn&#8217;t know what I was talking about. I&#8217;m fresh out of this Maxim experience. Right now, it seems innocent and fun. In a year from now, I might still feel that way. Five years from now, I could have a totally different point of view. Part of why blogs are so interesting is because they change as the people behind them change. Give me some time and I&#8217;m sure there will be something that makes me write about this Maxim instance further. That&#8217;s how my writing usually works. Or else I end up forcing meaning upon something, and that&#8217;s not authentic whatsoever and it makes me CRINGE.</p>
<p>(Side note-ish: Maybe at the moment I really don&#8217;t have anything interesting to say about it because I&#8217;m not looking that far into it currently. Where I work now, we hire really hot male models for certain events and I see nothing wrong with that. That&#8217;s what we (and our audience) want to see!)</p>
<p>I have been both dismissive and defensive when addressing these sometimes accusatory comments. For that I am sorry. I should have taken a step back before responding.</p>
<p>But DAMN! You even won <em>me</em> over with your extremely thought-out comment!</p>
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		<title>Comment on SnackFace: Three Years Young by snackface</title>
		<link>http://www.snack-face.com/2012/02/07/snackface-three-years-young/#comment-38805</link>
		<dc:creator>snackface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Zaineb! I am completely with you on the use of the word &quot;haters.&quot; It&#039;s so overused it&#039;s meaningless. It doesn&#039;t help either side of the discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Zaineb! I am completely with you on the use of the word &#8220;haters.&#8221; It&#8217;s so overused it&#8217;s meaningless. It doesn&#8217;t help either side of the discussion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on SnackFace: Three Years Young by Zaineb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zaineb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kailey,
  Your hair looks awesome!  I cut my hair short last year after having long hair for life and it was exactly the change I needed!  
  Also, I am in Women&#039;s Studie&#039;s class right now,and I have read about all the points that some of your readers are making.  I think some of these readers have excellent points, but I also think that nit-picking at one person&#039;s job isn&#039;t the problem to address.  In fact, the real problem is not the person, but the system.  If there is any discussion to be had on the feminist point of view of your Maxim gig, I don&#039;t think it should be on this blog, or on you as a person, as you are not the problem.  You, like all of us, are just trying to do well and live your life within the system that already exists and creates gendered roles in America.  That said, I don&#039;t think anyone should be addressing those who raise discussion as &quot;haters&quot;, because that word is just so overused and polarizing.  Instead, I think those who want to discuss feminist points of view should share there viewpoints on another forum, perhaps a blog that deals with feminist topics?
  Anyways, I think you are pretty awesome Kailey and you do not have to explain yourself or your decisions to others, just keep blogging and we will keep reading:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kailey,<br />
  Your hair looks awesome!  I cut my hair short last year after having long hair for life and it was exactly the change I needed!<br />
  Also, I am in Women&#8217;s Studie&#8217;s class right now,and I have read about all the points that some of your readers are making.  I think some of these readers have excellent points, but I also think that nit-picking at one person&#8217;s job isn&#8217;t the problem to address.  In fact, the real problem is not the person, but the system.  If there is any discussion to be had on the feminist point of view of your Maxim gig, I don&#8217;t think it should be on this blog, or on you as a person, as you are not the problem.  You, like all of us, are just trying to do well and live your life within the system that already exists and creates gendered roles in America.  That said, I don&#8217;t think anyone should be addressing those who raise discussion as &#8220;haters&#8221;, because that word is just so overused and polarizing.  Instead, I think those who want to discuss feminist points of view should share there viewpoints on another forum, perhaps a blog that deals with feminist topics?<br />
  Anyways, I think you are pretty awesome Kailey and you do not have to explain yourself or your decisions to others, just keep blogging and we will keep reading:)</p>
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		<title>Comment on SnackFace: Three Years Young by Tori @ Get A Word in Veg-Wise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tori @ Get A Word in Veg-Wise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You poor thing...people really don&#039;t want to leave you alone, do they? I know you are over talking about it, but I just want to let you know you have lots of support out there and if you want a once in a lifetime opportunity to look hot and party at the Super Bowl, take it and live. it. up. I used to be a promo model for beer and liquor companies in college (you know, like the MIller Lite girls with the horrible uniform and booty shorts handing out free stuff at the bar...yep that was me) and I loved it. Not only did it help pay my bills but it was a great time and I had fun. Maybe I&#039;m letting down the female race by &quot;objectifying&quot; myself and rocking a slutty outfit, but I never took that stuff too seriously. Life is fun, and there are larger problems to worry about over if I am an anti-feminist because I like short skirts. Puh-lease. 

Now to your questions: beer yes, wine always, your hair is adorable, and tailgating is a huge HELL YES!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You poor thing&#8230;people really don&#8217;t want to leave you alone, do they? I know you are over talking about it, but I just want to let you know you have lots of support out there and if you want a once in a lifetime opportunity to look hot and party at the Super Bowl, take it and live. it. up. I used to be a promo model for beer and liquor companies in college (you know, like the MIller Lite girls with the horrible uniform and booty shorts handing out free stuff at the bar&#8230;yep that was me) and I loved it. Not only did it help pay my bills but it was a great time and I had fun. Maybe I&#8217;m letting down the female race by &#8220;objectifying&#8221; myself and rocking a slutty outfit, but I never took that stuff too seriously. Life is fun, and there are larger problems to worry about over if I am an anti-feminist because I like short skirts. Puh-lease. </p>
<p>Now to your questions: beer yes, wine always, your hair is adorable, and tailgating is a huge HELL YES!</p>
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		<title>Comment on SnackFace: Three Years Young by Conni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the hair cut beautiful!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Late-Night SnackFace by Chiro in Ohio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chiro in Ohio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A pastry that doesn&#039;t need baking?! That&#039;s the stuff of dreams. I wonder if they are available at our local stores. Does it come in any other variant?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A pastry that doesn&#8217;t need baking?! That&#8217;s the stuff of dreams. I wonder if they are available at our local stores. Does it come in any other variant?</p>
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		<title>Comment on SnackFace: Three Years Young by eliza</title>
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		<dc:creator>eliza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very Well Said.

I still like your blog Kailey! But I think Katya made some good points here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very Well Said.</p>
<p>I still like your blog Kailey! But I think Katya made some good points here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on SnackFace: Three Years Young by Lindsey M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lindsey M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a huge fan of yours and love reading your blog and seeing the changes you make! It&#039;s always exciting that&#039;s for sure :) You&#039;re braver than I am for sharing your life with the world- the hair is beautimous by the way and your eyes always look simply put together- I&#039;ve read your beauty secrets but can&#039;t seem to re-create :) Ah well, have a lovely 3 more years of blogging!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a huge fan of yours and love reading your blog and seeing the changes you make! It&#8217;s always exciting that&#8217;s for sure <img src='http://www.snack-face.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  You&#8217;re braver than I am for sharing your life with the world- the hair is beautimous by the way and your eyes always look simply put together- I&#8217;ve read your beauty secrets but can&#8217;t seem to re-create <img src='http://www.snack-face.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Ah well, have a lovely 3 more years of blogging!</p>
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		<title>Comment on SnackFace: Three Years Young by Katya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kailey: I&#039;m not referring to the fact that you did this gig as evidence that you don&#039;t seem to care about not being shallow. I&#039;m referring to your blatant refusal to acknowledge any, ANY potential ramifications, issues, points of interest etc. engendered by your participating in the Maxim show. For that matter, it&#039;s deliberately obtuse to protest that people are making a big deal of &quot;one appearance-based event.&quot; You are clearly interested in actively pursuing a modeling career in some dimension, so it&#039;s really not as if this is some crazy one-off event that doesn&#039;t shed any light on your priorities and values overall.

I understand that you don&#039;t want to be forced to consider your actions in a socially conscious light. That&#039;s fine as a general rule, as a person is free to engage in whatever level of introspection he or she wishes. But considering that you&#039;re presenting a narrative of your experiences to readers and clearly intend it to be of interest in the journalistic sense, I think it&#039;s legitimately frustrating to your readers when you hew to this shallow level of &quot;I had fun and looked pretty.&quot; I think the &quot;low carb&quot; diet is really clouding the issue and doesn&#039;t really enter into this at all. Your readers are genuinely interested in what you think about more important issues than what you look like. It seems short sighted that you don&#039;t wish to engage in a deeper analysis and instead prefer to talk about your appearance. Maybe you should devote more of your energy to modeling than to writing if this is where your true interests lie.

Finally: On the contrary, I think it IS &quot;your place&quot; not to *decide* what the ramifications are for others, but at least to contemplate them from your own perspective. It&#039;s not very interesting or meaningful to simply say that you were hired for the gig and enjoyed it. Your list is a deliberately facile presentation of the event and that&#039;s obviously not what I meant by &quot;ramifications.&quot; Many commenters have pointed out that participating in this kind of event reflects certain values about women&#039;s appearances and the roles women play in society, which it seems somewhat insidious to leave undiscussed. Also, it&#039;s a good entry point for discussing socioeconomic privilege as it relates to objectification of women, which several commenters also touched on. In response to requests that you comment on these issues, you are essentially saying over and over again, &quot;All I wanted to do was have fun and look pretty!&quot; I&#039;ll readily believe that&#039;s all you wanted, but it seems very shallow and frustrating to your readers who believe you are capable of more interesting reflection. Maybe of the kind of that you wrote in your article about body image that you&#039;re now denouncing. I don&#039;t think you have to write a treatise on your values as they relate to the institution of modeling, or some kind of academic paper on socioeconomic privilege and the male gaze. I&#039;m just asking that you not be dismissive to what I think are very reasonable expressions of interest in this subject from your commenters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kailey: I&#8217;m not referring to the fact that you did this gig as evidence that you don&#8217;t seem to care about not being shallow. I&#8217;m referring to your blatant refusal to acknowledge any, ANY potential ramifications, issues, points of interest etc. engendered by your participating in the Maxim show. For that matter, it&#8217;s deliberately obtuse to protest that people are making a big deal of &#8220;one appearance-based event.&#8221; You are clearly interested in actively pursuing a modeling career in some dimension, so it&#8217;s really not as if this is some crazy one-off event that doesn&#8217;t shed any light on your priorities and values overall.</p>
<p>I understand that you don&#8217;t want to be forced to consider your actions in a socially conscious light. That&#8217;s fine as a general rule, as a person is free to engage in whatever level of introspection he or she wishes. But considering that you&#8217;re presenting a narrative of your experiences to readers and clearly intend it to be of interest in the journalistic sense, I think it&#8217;s legitimately frustrating to your readers when you hew to this shallow level of &#8220;I had fun and looked pretty.&#8221; I think the &#8220;low carb&#8221; diet is really clouding the issue and doesn&#8217;t really enter into this at all. Your readers are genuinely interested in what you think about more important issues than what you look like. It seems short sighted that you don&#8217;t wish to engage in a deeper analysis and instead prefer to talk about your appearance. Maybe you should devote more of your energy to modeling than to writing if this is where your true interests lie.</p>
<p>Finally: On the contrary, I think it IS &#8220;your place&#8221; not to *decide* what the ramifications are for others, but at least to contemplate them from your own perspective. It&#8217;s not very interesting or meaningful to simply say that you were hired for the gig and enjoyed it. Your list is a deliberately facile presentation of the event and that&#8217;s obviously not what I meant by &#8220;ramifications.&#8221; Many commenters have pointed out that participating in this kind of event reflects certain values about women&#8217;s appearances and the roles women play in society, which it seems somewhat insidious to leave undiscussed. Also, it&#8217;s a good entry point for discussing socioeconomic privilege as it relates to objectification of women, which several commenters also touched on. In response to requests that you comment on these issues, you are essentially saying over and over again, &#8220;All I wanted to do was have fun and look pretty!&#8221; I&#8217;ll readily believe that&#8217;s all you wanted, but it seems very shallow and frustrating to your readers who believe you are capable of more interesting reflection. Maybe of the kind of that you wrote in your article about body image that you&#8217;re now denouncing. I don&#8217;t think you have to write a treatise on your values as they relate to the institution of modeling, or some kind of academic paper on socioeconomic privilege and the male gaze. I&#8217;m just asking that you not be dismissive to what I think are very reasonable expressions of interest in this subject from your commenters.</p>
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